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Poker star Phil Ivey loses casino case in Britain

Includes video reportImagine you go to a casino to play blackjack. You find a table, sit down and buy some chips. Gambling has few barriers to entry.After awhile, you notice: For some reason, all of...

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Grandpa taught him well.

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A scheme to win becomes a scam when the house loses, too bad a house scheme that that gives it the advantage isn't considered a scam too.

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I agree, RJ!The house granted all his special requests, thereby participating (unwittingly) in his scheme. What did they think he was up to? Aren't these people trained to detect possible scams?They...

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Ivey has a point you tag on cheater to his name and you change the perception of the person.What did the casino expect him to do, tell them that they were dealing with a faulty deck

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+1To my knowledge, the dealer can't grant special requests without authorization from the pit boss. They are specifically trained to protect the house at all costs. As you said, they just saw another...

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RJOHI would hope people would unite and boycott that casino. But small people are too divided so the casino will still thrive.

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I wonder since the court decided the game was a scam if the casino was forced to return the money he put up in advance to play, if not then the court partnered up with the casino to scam him out of his...

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Basically, yes.

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The basic casino management mentality is that if you are playing with any advantage then that is no longer gambling - and that is totally unacceptable even if you had a halo around your head!Fores...

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Reply #11

Exactly, Edessa.The rule that covers anything not mentioned by the rules is this, if it's to the advantage of the house, it can be done. Otherwise it can't.

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I'm happy he lost. How is that not cheating? Tag cheater on his name, he deserves it. He had anadvantage and used it w/o letting someone know about the defective deck....he knew better.Tag whatever...

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Yesterday I read an article about him, and his friend from NewJersey. If they wanted it to go on, they should have played it, and won, less often, like once a month. But they were so carried away with...

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It's so obvious ain't it dr65. It's been along time in any area of life where the majority will stick up for whats right. At least Judge Judy sets them straight

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The Casino purchased the cards.Phil just played with the cards that the Casino provided.He should get his money.By the way, couldn't the rocket scientists that run the Casino figure something was up...

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It is a shame that you are not smart enough to see that the casino allowed this to happen by thinking they would win at the table in the end.They allowed him to play.

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He gave himself an advantage which the game precludes, Judge John Mitting said, as Bloomberg reported. This is in my view cheating.Another judge could see it different by faulting the casino because...

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How is that not cheating?The deck was not defective and the game is dealt using several decks. Ivey never touched the cards so basically you're accusing him of cheating because the casino was dumb...

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Or they knew the judge would rule in their favor

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Reply #20

I would be more tempted to think poorly of a casino who thinks if any of its customers win then they must be cheating even if they play by the rules it makes.

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Reply #21

I hope people stop frequenting that casino and that it goes out of business. Pay Ivey his money

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By the way, couldn't the rocket scientists that run the Casino figure something was up well before he won $12.4????Maybe they did but being gamblers too couldn't pass up the chance to try and take his...

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Reply #24

Poker players look for any tells or clue to give themselves an advantage. Phil Ivey did just that. He spotted a weakness and pounced on it so now the casino thinks he cheated. The house already has the...

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Reply #25

So true! I witnessed a teenager who spent over $200 on a slot machine before finally winning over six thousand dollars. The casino refused to pay her the winnings and kept all the money she lost.

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Reply #26

The casino probably selected a judge who they have a personal relation with,to handle the case.

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